Massa Ginny Gets Mo' Free Press, cuz White Wimins is da Massa

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There is a trend developing amongst bloggers, and it isn't half as pretty as A face covered with underwear. The trend is Men who are incapable of talking to women, much less doing anything else with them, using domestic violence and death threats as a precursor to larger dialogues with "strrong women" ( etc, all stereotypes). In this disguise, they weigh in to debates about 'misogyny on the internet" rather than adresseing the reasons why( plethora) they can't talk to women otherweise. In general, they contribute largely to why men are perceived so badly in real life.
Most of them are balding tech geeks, biology professors, and other nerds who use the mind instead of the peniole obstruction to access women thriough meaningless dialogues, but mostly, thay are men who aren't pretty, like me, the TROLLLLLL>;-)
Here is a recent debate I was in regarding this trend, and those who put out the bad vibes that incarcerate lower income men instead of child abusing women who create those men.
The debate was some woman on the net who had a twelve year old ot =r some other person send her bad comments on her site:

"A similar thing happened to an older friend of mine. She's been cyber-stalked for several years by an obsessive, relentless sociopath who hasn't found a line he won't cross or a boundary he won't violate. He is resourceful to say the least. He constantly tries to infiltrate her world. All of her friends must be vigilant. He phoned her older kids in their college dorm rooms and her elderly mother at her home. He made veiled threats to her about her mother. He collected pictures of her daughter (a lovely 15 year old who is fighting type 1 diabetes) and posted them on his website, then proceeded to send the girl messages at her MySpace account. My friend nearly went homicial at that point. She deleted her account and stayed away from our 360 blogcircle because she was afraid - afraid of what SHE might do if he tried to contact her daughter again."
Poster goes on to say that "I have my own photoshop fantasy, but it involves nothing more lurid than a snapshot of creepystalker and some text listing his name and address and describing his various crimes. Oh, and a copier. And a ream of paper. And pushpins and masking tape. And a few hours of my time posting these things all over his hometown."
Soo, more fire is good at fighting fire, more violence begets more violence, but a better kind of violence? Yeah, like the prison growth industry of America.

There's a lot more, but you get the idea.So troll weighed in and gave his thirty three fart things worth of opinion...trolls actual opinion until proven otherwise, and some person--could be male, could be female--actually gets charged with a crime, until proven guilty....

"Sierra engineered the whole 'scandal', and it is proving to be really really great for her hit counter.
Most people miss the fact that she accused multiple males of multiple false things, slandering them, and gaining great PR for her site, and still no one is blogging about the innocence of those men, just like no one is blogging about the innocence of the men accused of rape at Duke.
I might add that those men all faced charges of imprisonment for 30+ years. That is a REAL injustice, not an imagined one, or a possible one.
Evidently no one noticed the male bashing that Sierra has posted as well.
Hmmm...so that's how we get our site more popular?"

WEll, that sure got the fellahs with the shiny domes and potbelliiiies riled...Some bright minds( bright because of the light streaming through their corneas reflecting off of empty white space inside) like the idea of a "BLOGGER CODE OF ETHICS" which is great in trolls opinion, as long as the American National Socialist Party writes it, or some other fascists...another bright mind said "This is about the most ridiculous topic of discussion that I've ever heard- right up there with the Ann Althouse tirade against a tight sweater."
And of course troll agreed.
Then the terrorists weighed in, in this case Kenneth Mareld:"Death threats are terror. When directed to an individual, the fear and paralysis are overwhelming. "

And then an uninformed suburban racist named Jeff Frecke said "The moment you type "Duke rape case," I know you're whacked out of your mind. You brandish the one time in the last twenty-five years that rich white boys were charged wrongly like it proves a goddamn thing. "
and Caledonian replied"Rich white boys are wrongly charged with stuff all the time. It's just not usually as public as it was that time.

How many of the people who publically castigated those boys are apologizing now, hmmm?" to which troll says yayayayyyy someone out there is alive and concerned that the American justice systems perpetuation of institutionl racism is bad enough already...

And some prison building yak says "Just to make an analogy: a woman (ie. Sierra) is standing outside her burgled house, weeping in shock and fear. The burglars are standing on the other side of the street, smirking." and troll thinks' I bet his money is on prison corporation stock'

AND THEN, this guy pre-empts the TROLLLL!!!! which makes troll mad, really bridgejumping mad, because usually at pharyngula.com, no one pre-empts troll!!

cmf says "Jeffe Frecke, pull your head out of that kotex you are deriving your sustenance from and research it yourself. Men in general are accused and convicted routinely over that sort of thing. Heard of the Innocence Project? Or doesn't your mother let you look at such filth? Now go crawl backin your troll hole( or whatever other hole it is that fills your mind with such pabulum). It happens every day somewhere, but we are not able to compile the stats due to false reporting not being on feminist priority lists.
DUKE PROSECUTOR APOLOGIZES
Nuf said douche;-)

RE: Keneth Mareld:"I have been threatened several times, explicitly. The first three times were based on my Union activities. When I was seventeen Teamster goons threatened me at my workplace (they were trying to organize Los Angeles car dealerships), twice!"

"Yeah, the difference between being on the actual front lines of war and pushing buttons from Washington is akin to this whole engineered Sierra scandal. I have my own bullet wounds I mean, congrats, you sound like an actual freedom fighter, but dude their is no comparison to front lines and Sierra. I mean, for instance, her blog post, the one where she goes offline in fear, has a minimum of 8 male bashing images completely denigrating men two posts down!

Then after she accused multiple innocent males( something that Frecke advocates) who later grovelled for her, and the internet fems who like grovelling chocolate jeezus sucking troll men( like Frecke), no one got hurt, except those men.

Hairhead: I mean, it is this man hating imagery that leads us to a civil rights revoking culture that demonizes men en masse, while holding up the hypotheticals as 'real'
You said "Just to make an analogy: a woman (ie. Sierra) is standing outside her burgled house, weeping in shock and fear. "
It reminds me of the movie "M" from the 1930's that preceded Hitlers pogroms, and what was to follow, because the propaganda posits blah=blah2, and everyone accepts the formula.
I am weeping in shock and fear that the very 'idea' of one woman being threatened can incarcerate 1 to 100( or more?) men on the premise of fear alone, sans actual evidence of a crime!p.s.
since when are differing opinions the opinions of 'trolls'? You elitist wannabe bass turds, labeling people-and using such unoriginal labels to skirt the issue,or diffuse actual dissent!
You Fastshits!
I mean, if blogs were meant to be in crowd only elitist watering holes of safe, scrubbed and sanctified opinions only, what would that say about public blogging and cyberspace? Another god ol' folks club, but this one full of rich[insert favorite neoracist category of identification] boys and girls.
No wonder it was so easy for the Bushies to close the constitution, and justice for all--because something might/could have/ sometimes does happen when people use words that don't fall out of your personal label makers. Yikes.

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to which the replies come fast and furious; more fast and more furious than the hands of freshman women under their sheets at Smith College!!!!

And troll ponders.....and notes the guy is almost exactly ideologically where trollll sits on the same issues, but the bastard left no way of contacting him!!
then, the replies:

*Backs away slowly, nodding politely*

Posted by: Jeff Fecke | April 13, 2007 10:46 PM

#96cmf:

Ask your doctor to increase your doseage.

Posted by: Graculus | April 13, 2007 10:48 PM

and counter reply!!!
Graculus: I will presume you said that in the spirit of fun? In any case, I think I found your Nurse Ratchet Fan Klub Kard. It was in her locker, underneath your testicles.

Azkyroth:
"I have very little patience for those who treat any male who says anything that could be construed as critical of a person who happens to be a woman as "presumed guilty until proven guilty" of "misogyny" "

Me either. And I have less patience for people who are quick to label dissenting opinions as"threat level"
Me either. And I have less patience for people who are quick to label dissenting opinions as"threat level"

So you think that having your personal info posted along with graphic violent and sexual threats is a normal part of social interaction.


Perhaps you should have a chat with your mother. Next time she brings your cheet-ohs downstairs for you.

Posted by: Graculus | April 13, 2007 11:22 PM

AND MORE REPLIESSSSSSSS:::>>>>


CMF: I haven't been particularly impressed with your comments either, and if you're actually claiming that what are being responded to are "dissenting opinions" I think refuting or denouncing you would be superfluous.

Graculus: This line of attack is like criticizing Ann Coulter's looks instead of her policy positions.

Posted by: Azkyroth | April 14, 2007 12:20 AM

Wellllthis is certainly opne I must read more on later, but for now, trollll must go get him some woman to eat....with him at dinnertable.....*sounds of troll eating witches cat*
*spitting out yarnball* *azxkkhghhghhxzkkk*

Trolll is contemplating mean White women and their tendency to age not gracefully.
Oh, yeah, and contemplating that their are a few hotties, well educated,strong assertive, hotties on the Rutgers basketball team, and how Trolllll feels that their should be more women like them.
Which puts troll in the mind to remember that stripper slut who accused some other players at Duke of raping her lying, smelly disgusting black ass--and got away with it.
When oh when will we have a law to punish false accusers?<

MissAndy a White woman gets Free press using the word misogyny

Massa Ginny ( or in this case Cathy Sierra) cries wolf, an' we all jus' git ta steppin' fo' de white massa Womyns.

Cathy Sierra recently apologized for her accusation that a man was flaming her site with death threats. Oh: she didn't blame only him-she blamed several men, publicly.I will not document her site, or give her MORE FREE PRESS, as that is exactly her intent in crying wolf here.

Then, after that lie circulated the internet, it was retracted, leaving the web littered with 27,300 yahoo hits for the search phrase "misogyny in cyberspace."
That hit count is up 2,700 since I first called this engineered scandal on the blog 10000birds What did I call this scandal?
The Cathy Sierra " engineered scandal".

Sad sad sad the way a lie can travel the world a thousand times before the truth wakes up and gets its pants on. Oh, in this case, the lie traveled at least 2700 times, and counting.

Hmmm..I wonder what "duke rape false accuser" might bring up...naw, probably not alot.
Here is a link to the story follow up, where, after a week or so of claiming she was ruined, and thus ruining the reputations of a few guys in the process, she issues a joint statement of quasi apopolgy, alongside the maligned guy Chris Locke.He takes sedcond billing, of course;-) A good, humble feminist man....

Cathy Sierra backs away from her false allegations against yet another innocent man"

But screw them and their social engineering experiment with the mere meme of "my saga:me!" Here's something that really needs our attention!

Men robbed by scandalous women"

Inter-Alien Hybridization

http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume13/j13_1_2.htm



In case you ever wondered what your kids might look like if you cross breed with aliens. Well, some aliens , at least for now, because the USA databases have only identified the 'illegal aliens', and the 'bad males' that 'good americans' fill the prisons with every year pause

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this is a link attempt

Female Lovers and Murderers

How does this happen?

http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume13/j13_1_2.htm




female/female murder victim





Here is an interesting case of women who kill out of rage, and jealousy. Darlene VanderGiesen and Daphne Wright loved each other so deeply that Daphne bought a chainsaw, and according to the AP "Wright, 43, is charged with the death of Darlene VanderGeisen in the first death penalty trial of a woman in South Dakota. Bone fragments were in Wright's basement and parts of her body were found in a landfill in Sioux Falls and in a ditch in Minnesota. (AP Photo/Elisha Page, Pool)
Now there is a new meaning for 'giving back to mother earth';-)

The troll is against the death penalty in all cases, and finds it important to note that women who murder, like women who molest, are more likely to murder children before the age of five, rather than grown adults, and if and when women kill someone who is not their child, or another persons child,under five, female pepetrators murders are usually related to their sexual thoughts and feelings. In the case of these two lovely womyn, it was jealousy.

This story lends a new look at the feminist thesis that 'men' eroticize inter- racial dating;-)Oh--Darlene is the pinkish shading to pasty taupe colored one, and Daphne is the pinkish especially on her cheeks one with the a little more taupe colored one. Hmm....the Dakotas have tried for the death penalty twice in the last two years: once against a Mexican man named Rodriguez, who became a serial rapist murderer at an early age after being repeatedly molested by his female relatives,and now Daphne. I see a trend there....I mean people who become murderers after they were the silent victims of sexual molestion by women when they were young.http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume13/j13_1_2.htm

American females project that men fetishize 'Asian women" : a cover up for American womens wimpish bitching? Or a distracation from weightier issues?

By Martin Petty

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thai inmate Samson Sor Siriporn boosted her chances of freedom by beating Japan's Ayaka Miyano to win the vacant women's WBC light-flyweight title at the notorious "Bangkok Hilton" prison Tuesday....

Imagine two things:
1) Thai society actually imprisons female drug dealers, rather than allowing them to merely set their boy/girlfriends up.
2) a more balanced society where women actually know how to fight!But here in America, they are too busy replacing the quasi lesbian relationships they had with their mother with those they other.
More here on that
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume13/j13_1_2.htm
And Here
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/

Lichen award: To Brown feminine power, her kindness, and her genteel spirit.

If only because you have never wasted a minute of your life on Eve Ensler, and violence created by women who see themselves first as a vagina, and only later as a woman, through no fault of the troll, or any other, and mostly, for having better things to think and write about, but mostly for your kind and simple response:

RE: "the troll–please go bait somebody else. I’ve never seen the vagina monologues, and I don’t think I’ve ever even covered them on this site."
Troll discovers that you are indeed very keeewwwwl, and troll nods in affirmation of your wisdom.

"you’re barking at the wrong feminist my sweet."

This is the most gentle, kind, and decent response the troll has gotten, EVER from any blogger, EVER.Ever. Troll is very serious now, and my cuneiform radiant corneas are no longer hooded from the darkness: my nictitating membrane has lifted at the light you provide in the form of your kindness! I want to send you Trolls metaphorical light hearted and lively "moss and lovely round dark and shiny-shiny found rock with just a bit of lichen for padding to set at your blogstep!
AND, a link to a favored other:

http://www.irelandseye.com/paddy3/preview2.htm

Sudy: It is not intended as bait dear, it is a sad fact within the writers rhetoric circles that this sort of horrible obsessional confessional stuff( re: the post above and its similarities to V.M.), is seen as risque', rather than ones feelings about the indigenous other within themselves and an even sadder fact that those diatribes have been given the press they have, and I urge you to NOT see the Vagina Monologues indeed. It is also something that has bothered troll as well, these useless voyeuristic dialogues, in lieu of deeper more penetrating looks at ourselves and others.

BFP:You are a savvy and soulful blogger, too full of wisdom to squander one wise minute on that cr^pulum;-)
And so--I send the lovin onto your blog;-)
With clear cadence, and hoped for clarity, I wish you many happy returns--but retool the workshop professor, or activate within the circle of writers that are there with you to out his foolishness--he sounds like a real troll;-)
RB

Ol' Massa' Ginny raises her fingers to ask herself a question, and gets the whole internet community alerted to engineered scandal.

Hu-humph! another dialogue gone sour. It is impossible to put in three farthings worth of opinion anywhere in the blogosphere...it is all so used up with meanigless dialogues and half baked opinions, and worst of all, people who ask questions they don't want answers to.
So haz was asked to leave another blog. Oh POOH.

So, out of respect for that bloggers right to remain opinionated and sadly uninformed, the haz left the discussion....but in true haz fashion, haz left some thoughts behind, like dust behind the Tasmanian devil;-)
T
he debate out there is about a female blogger who is getting an incredible amount of free press due to her accusation that another blogger, or several, have given her death threats. I will not yet give the issue precious trollll space, because the academic liberals, the hate speech profiteers, and others are already doing that. Haz has no opinion YET, pending an actual official charge of some kind by the proper authorities, rather than by said blogger.

Haz responded to a post that asked " have you ever experienced misogyny in the blogosphere" to which haz replied, ' no, but it is an easy accusation for others who other you to make against you when they don't like your opinion', and so forth. ( will post those initial comments later, but for now ferast your eyes on the other side of misogyny;-)

The site is really keeewl as well, which made Haz kind of sad, because it is a site about birds, and Trolls wholly devour birds out here in the forest as snack foods, but carefully leave the song birds alone so that the ecofeminist and Gaian cat lovers of the world can feed then to their cats.

www.10000birds.com

I had then posted :
Yikes, Mike: I refer to earlier comment "and the men that they drag in to fight their battles".... because Haz, an egalitarian, was duped into not knowing the gender of the author, partrially because I have ptosis in my left eye, but also because of the smoke from the last forty years of mel bashing feminism filling the outer layer of the nictitating membrane of my hazmatitical eyes.
So I worote this:

I apologize for mistaking your identity. It is more and more possible to do that in cyberspace then it used to be, because the male bashing propaganda press, then, was 99% female owned and operated, matrilocal from Berkeley, or Boston College and their surrounding intellectual breeding grounds. Now it is primarily institutionalized thanks to the ilks of Catherine MacKinnon, et al., and again I refer you to the war in Iraq, and all of those single mother raised young men;-)

Oh, yeah, back then, a few guys generated that pabulum as well: the guys who were/are attached to the male bashers, and/or the guys trying to get attached to them;-) So I didn't expect a gendered author issue here,and was responding to you as a poster. I stand on what I said earlier-which is that misogyny is a female generated issue, and is everywhere:

Yahoo Hit counter sayyyyyysss:
"misandry in cyberspace" 127 hits
"misogyny in cyberspace" 24,400 hits

and the squeeky lil phrase :
misanthropy in cyberspace generates 1,050

So, I am doing with the word 'misanthropy' what was done to so many words in the not so distant past: I am owning it, and morphing it into a broader meaning of hatred of men. I fear the general public is not ready for an actual discussion of misandry.

I think you might have missed my point, or not actually read my post: how can you disagree with me "completely"? I mean, you are aware indeed that matrilocal/matrilineal societies crank out men who they train to do more warring than any other form of society, right? That is a fact of all human species. I mean, you watch birds right? What do those cranky little fellers do in the nests of others?

Well, egalitarian is a great thought isn't it? How does it work for you in practice? Or, may I ask "who defined that term for you?" What was her name;-)

Well, where oh where did you get the idea that hazmatixezs
MO is to insert RANDOM opposition to dialogues? Random is hardly in the MO of the wearer of a HazMat suit. Can I presume that some one else out there in the matrilocal environment has influenced that opinion for you as well? Not that I want to be rude and presume, tho.

But an alarming trend recently, hazmatix has been demonized by people with weak intellectual constitutions, and even worse definitions of misogyny. Oh, yeah, and also hated by quite a few male bashers;-) BUT, on the brighter side, the Haz has opened up some interesting new dialogues;-) Over at Greg Ladens blog, a few 'homeschoolers' were being incredibly evasive, and defensive about discussing abuse, and particularly defensive about sexual abuse in the homeschool environment, until haz weighed in. Especially some from the more matriarchal schools of thought, ala" I want to raise my kid in a matriarchy. Matriarchy doesn't exist. So, I will create it, and use my kid as a sketchpad for it.";-) I merely refered them to bonobos, and several studies about maternal abuse of infants as a resource.
Then like thunder, the skies opened up, and statistics and anectdotes were flying;-)The down side is that haz was labeled as a troll.........
Which I am;-)
The other downside was that some yak took my words out of context,and began some talk, and then the slightest inference that Sierras really sad plight is somehow linked to the comments of haz, or others like me who find male bashing repugnant, and respond to it....yak, and some fellow members of the herd then labeled me massaginist, which I highly resent, because I have never, ever given one bad backrub !!
Which led me to your site, and if all of that is random, I accept the plea.
But I just call bullshit "bullshit" when I see it. And I especially like to address the issue of male bashing wear-ever I need to suit up. As I stated earlier, the case of Sierra is one that deserves attention, but all of these others talking about it? Yikes, the web is FULL of that already.
The saddest fact, is that the men who could,and the women they are/should be attached to, could righteously complain about misandry, generate,or join in the dialogue about it . But they don't.
Even more unfortunately, the guys who could best take on misandry, which really leads to misanthropic world views,are often dead soldiers, prisoners, homeless vets, or just Joe 9 to 5, with no time, or resources to speak up about it--you know, the guys who listen to Rush and wear their hats backwards on the drive home from work as their last most remote vestige of rebellion to a society that internalizes hatred of males so deeply that women are allowed to 'own' the dialogue, and then teach it to , well, you, and any of so many other categories of men that go overlooked, until they are labeled, or assaulted in the game of words.
So, yeah, I applaud you--kind of, for taking the issue on, but really, yeah, just kind of. But I am no longer mystified as to why protests of male bashing are instantly labeled as "misogyny" by so many folks.

The blogger asked me to leave the post, because I was not on his topic, misogyny, which I feel is soooo overplayed for commercial gain these days that it is hard to separate "good clean fun from death threats" and engineered scandals....more on thatlater..
HAZ SAID:

most importantlyI will respect your wishes indeed, and I did ask you some questions about your thoughts on this and other topics already in my earlier posts. If you can reply, I am at hazmatix@ the address that you have for me already on file( I presume these posts contain that).

I am prefacing this with the idea that you don't appreciate my inference that hate is hate, or that misogyny is related to misandry,and so I will stay on your topic here in my comments, re: misogyny, and possible causes, and solutions for said misogyny. I didn't see that you are actually asking me to leave the discussion entirely, only that you felt I was hijacking the thread, so I will stick to the issue about misogyny in the blogosphere.
And this will be my last post, with that in mind. Thanks for your sentiments, and I part ways with this dialogue, no censorship of this topic is necessary, as that "link" and the correlation between The Sierra misogyny incident and misandry is valid.
I really liked Sierras bold and uncompromising statement that "I would never be for censoring speech--these people can say all the misogynistic, vile, tasteless things they like--but we must preserve that line where words and images become threats of violence. Freedom of speech--however distasteful and rude the speech may be, is crucial."
An I trust the courts will figure that out if she files a lawsuit, where that line is drawn, and hope that rather than basking in the free publicity that this has generated, an actual charge is filed. I will follow it closely now. But hating is a two way street, and it is internalized whether you internalize misogyny, or misandry--internalized hatred of men and a link to misogyny is clearly evident on the same blog! This particular thread that you have linked to Sierras contains below the post on misogyny, "is your app an ass-kisser?"

It has no less than eight picture portrayals of men as "assholes" " anal retentives" etc, and no less then three images of men that contain the phrase " you can't trust " him,and no less than three of those images portray references to the male rectum, and in this case the rectum of males....( a rectum of males is a measure for anything more than one guy, and less than a platoon of them)

Really, It is terrible when these things happen to nice people, and my heart sincerely goes out to someone who has tolerated such things, but not exclusively because they are women--that would be truly misogynistic. But because the issues are sort of realted to the "you get back what you give out" theory of existence.
My heart goes out to every working stiff who has internalized such imagery of himself so deeply that these kind of images of men--that post had exclusively men portrayed as ass kissers, anal retentives, flaky intellectuals such as "tempermental guy...who is a pain in the ass, but worth it?"

Hmmm.....are these just funny, or something more grand, and if so, it begs the question: what sort of personal politics lead people to such incidents?Are such images just "funny", or some other sort of thing...Sure, these eight steretotypes of male tech geeks can be funny to insiders, if taken in the right context, and not when taken the wrong way. Would you tolerate such a double standard in regards to misogyny and 'humor'? And because that sick'humor' by Locke or whoever she has publicly labeled as responsible for that sick humor/law breaking death threat is more extreme, are they more or less both merely derogeuratory?

I wasn't able to judge for myself, because she pulled the original threats from the site. So I will respect your wishes, and leave this thread and now, and post on my own site, because apparently you feel that contributing to the discussion is hijacking. Seeking input into the issue you asked about, or lively discussion of its definitions or its causation is moot next to expressions of sympathy, or discussions of "blatant bias" as long as those biases don't include male opinions of misogyny, and her children misanthropy or misandry.

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